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HANSARD EXTRACT
Occupational Health and Safety (Commonwealth Employment ) Amendment (Promoting Safer Workplaces) Bill 2005: Second Reading
7 & 8 December 2005

Mr HAYES (Werriwa) (7.26 p.m.)—Once again we have a bill being debated in this place that seeks to override a decision of a legally constituted body. But on this occasion it is not the Australian Industrial Relations Commission, as we have seen in other legislation introduced in this place. This time the federal government is seeking to overturn the decision of another government. But, much like the rest of the legislative program of this government, it is not a case of stopping at just one government. The provisions of the Occupational Health and Safety (Commonwealth Employment) Amendment (Promoting Safer Workplaces) Bill 2005 act to curtail the operation of the industrial manslaughter laws of any state or territory into the future. I oppose this bill, both for what it does and for the premise on which it is based.

The Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, in his second reading speech, started out by stating that these amendments:

... will reinforce and underscore the Commonwealth’s regulatory approach to workplace health and safety, which is to ensure that the main focus should be on preventing workplace injuries, rather than punishment after the event.

They are noble sentiments indeed, and I think that you would be hard pressed to find anybody who did not support the notion that it would be better to have an approach that supports occupational health and safety and does not rely solely on prevention through punishment. But companies have been introducing workplace changes for some years, and I think there is now a reasonably healthy regime out there which has been developing.

Whilst the government’s philosophy on this occasion, where it seeks to focus on injury prevention, may be noble to that extent, I do not know if it would translate into setting aside law enforcement so that we focused on crime prevention rather than punishment after the event. I do not know that the minister would find too many people who would agree with that approach. However, fundamentally there is probably little difference between the two in terms of general philosophy.

People always agree that law enforcement should have its focus on crime prevention, and it is certainly a guiding philosophy that most neighbourhood and community groups who are tasked with administering crime prevention programs would no doubt agree with. However, I do not know that anyone would go so far as to agree that, if a criminal act has taken place, the perpetrator should go unpunished just because the main focus should be on crime prevention. No-one is willing to let criminals go unpunished, so why should we adopt an approach to workers’ safety in which negligent employers can go unpunished? To my way of thinking, that just does not make sense.

The impetus for this bill is the passing by the ACT government of the Crimes (Industrial Manslaughter) Amendment Act. The act, among other things, moved industrial manslaughter from occupational health and safety legislation into the Crimes Act because the standard for conviction is higher.

Debate interrupted.

8 December 2005 in continuation

Mr HAYES (Werriwa) (10.48 a.m.)—Last night, when I was speaking on the Occupational Health and Safety (Commonwealth Employment) Amendment (Promoting Safer Workplaces) Bill 2005, I indicated that it is a very important point that the standard of proof for conviction under the legislation of the ACT government is much higher than for a civil standard. As a consequence, it is reliant not simply on the balance of probability for a prosecution but on the criminal standard of being beyond all reasonable doubt.

These laws do not apply directly to Commonwealth employees or Commonwealth departments. However, they do apply to Commonwealth government business enterprises such as Telstra—at least, until it is sold—Australia Post and the Health Insurance Commission. There are possibly others, but at least I know that it directly applies to those three. I do not think that a reasonably minded person would think that this would be a horrendous intrusion into the operation of those organisations. They are quite large organisations, which I expect—over the last few years, at least—would have invested quite considerable sums of money in improving workplace safety with a view to minimising the impact of injuries in their operations. I find it difficult, therefore, to believe that these organisations would be so concerned over the impact of the ACT legislation to the point where they would be lobbying government to be excluded from these provisions.

In a nutshell, that is probably the key point: lobbying government to be excluded from the provisions. For the most part this debate is not about ACT laws but about the approach of this government when faced with something it does not like. This bill is not about the impact it may have on an estimated 1,000 employees of the Commonwealth government business enterprises that might be affected by the ACT law; it is about the continuing approach by this government and yet another demonstration of its preparedness to legislate when things do not go its own way. What I mean is that when faced with a decision it does not like the government is more than willing to simply legislate to overturn it or, in this case, legislate to exclude itself from it. That is the essence of this bill and, quite frankly, the essence of this government. In his doorstop interview on 23 March the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations noted:

When the ACT was contemplating this legislation last year we then said that we objected to it. We thought it was inappropriate and we’ve simply taken the steps that we can to protect Commonwealth employees.

He went on to say:

As to broader issues that’s a matter for the people of the ACT.

He has got that part right, at least: it is a matter for the people of the ACT. That is an important part which really should not be glossed over. Australia has had a long history of setting up governments, judicial systems, tribunals and other bodies to oversee the making of independent judgments on issues. Since 1989, the ACT has had its own government, which was established to determine laws and other governance structures that would apply to the people of the ACT. That government should be left to do exactly that.

The ACT Legislative Assembly is made up of 17 members who are elected every three years by the people of the ACT to represent them and to make decisions and laws on their behalf. That is a fundamental plank of our system of governance. But now, because the minister or the Prime Minister or whoever in government has decided that they do not like one of the laws that this freely elected government made, the Commonwealth intends to legislate to exclude itself from its coverage. What arrogance. This government, quite frankly, is drunk with its own power and believes that simply because it does not agree with the ACT government it will just legislate to exclude itself from any decision.

This is not the first time that this has occurred and I am sure that it will not be the last under this government. The same underlying philosophy led to legislation that excluded small business from making redundancy payments. The government on that occasion decided it did not like the decision of the court and would legislate against it. It is part of an underlying philosophy that has resulted in the effective neutering of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission under the changes that were introduced only yesterday, which will have a completely deleterious effect on our industrial relations system. This government did not like the last few decisions that the Australian Industrial Relations Commission made, and it has been on record opposing them. So what does it do? It sets out to neuter the existing system and establish another tribunal, the Fair Pay Commission, in the hope that it might have more influence over its decisions in the future that it did over the independence of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission.

If we have a couple of more bills introduced with the same underlying philosophy, we will have to start referring to this as a characteristic of this government and not just a trend. At this stage it has got to be seen as a disturbing trend. It is disturbing because it is creating yet another two-tiered system in workplace law, and it is disturbing for the broader context of this government’s agenda. It is disturbing in light of the government’s own definition of the new federalism as set out since it took control of the Senate. One can only wonder which other Australian institutions that are integrated into our system of checks and balances the government may have its sights on and what other state laws it may not like and may decided to legislate to exclude itself from. What other two-tiered systems are going to be created? In which other areas is even greater confusion over the coverage of workers going to be created for employers? I have to wonder if this bill signals the start of a new role for this government’s involvement in occupational health and safety issues. Maybe this is a new area on which the government wishes to focus its energies.

Industrial manslaughter laws have received considerable attention of late. There is no denying that. They have been the subject of debate in many state governments, and by unions and business representatives alike. The position of each group is quite clear. Of course, we would all prefer a situation where fatalities did not occur in the workplace. Not only is it traumatic for the colleagues who remain and who feel they should have done more in an effort to prevent an accident but it is traumatic for the families of the victims. That is why there is a need for such laws. I agree that industrial manslaughter laws should not be put in place simply to ‘go after the boss’ when a fatality occurs. They should not be there simply for someone to be blamed. However, they need to be there so that, if there is gross or criminal negligence involved, those responsible should be punished and punished appropriately.

I am not saying that in every instance people should be punished. But if something goes wrong and there is negligence, I do not see that appropriate punishment is unfair. I drew the analogy earlier with criminal activity. We all believe that, once a crime has been committed, the perpetrator should be punished. The same should apply here. While the government hangs its argument against this on the approach of keeping the focus on preventing workplace injuries, even the most vigilant workplaces cannot eradicate injuries altogether. Accidents happen; sometimes accidents happen as a result of someone’s negligence. In those instances it should not be dismissed simply as another accident on a work site. I am sure that members opposite will believe that the union movement is in support of such legislation and that Labor members are only opposing this bill to protect their colleagues in the union movement. Let me assure you that that is not the case.

In 2003 the Canadian government modernised its criminal code with respect to corporate criminal liability, with the government adopting changes to ensure that employees could be held liable for criminally negligent acts or omissions at the workplace. I also understand that the UK has also indicated that it will consider ‘corporate killing’ legislation, with the government introducing a bill earlier this year which would place an obligation on directors to take responsibility for their company’s health and safety laws. Rather than simply legislating to exclude itself, the Commonwealth should accept its responsibility and use its government business enterprises to lead by example and set new benchmarks in occupational health and safety. This would be a much better means of reinforcing its philosophy of prevention rather than punishment.

In the development of any workplace laws, there will always be a number of competing views and objectives. It would be pretty ignorant of us to think otherwise. However, there are some necessary conditions that should be adhered to. The government cannot hide behind a weak argument that ACT laws move the focus off safe workplaces and away from focusing on prevention of injuries at the workplace. The legislation simply does not do that.

It would be naive to think that any worker would be more prepared to be placed at risk because they feel comforted by the knowledge that if they were injured or killed their boss could be punished. That would be absurd. Workers would much prefer it if the risk at the workplace was minimised by having preventative practices and infrastructure in place at their workplace. I cannot imagine any worker believing that punishment substitutes for safety. As I said, I regard that as simply absurd.

Prevention and punitive measures are not conflicting or mutually exclusive, and they should never be considered so. Preventative measures are reinforced by punitive measures. This is an approach that the government has used as the basis of its welfare reform, so why is it so affronted by the application of workplace safety laws? In most other circumstances and policy areas, prevention and punishment go hand in hand, so I do not see why occupational health and safety should be any different.

While the minister claims that this bill has been introduced to remove uncertainty that has arisen in the ACT legislation, this bill actually adds to it. It adds to the confusion of ACT employers in determining whether or not they are going to be covered by industrial manslaughter laws. It adds to the confusion of governments in other states and territories who, when considering such legislation, will be uncertain as to how their laws might be changed or modified without consultation or consent. It adds to the confusion of businesses who find occupational health and safety matters confusing at the best of times. It also adds to the confusion of employers, employees and their families who are impacted by a death in the workplace.

I oppose the bill because it is the first step down a slippery slope with the Commonwealth government starting to legislate to exclude itself from the laws of another sovereign state or territory government. It is a slippery slope that we start down when the Commonwealth government feels that it is well within its rights to intrude into the rights of another government and determine laws that apply in that state or territory. It is an approach by government that I believe goes against the basic tenets on which our system is built. It is wrong in principle and wrong in practice. The people of the states and territories elect their governments to make laws to govern them, and that is the way it should remain.

 


 

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